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Random Smatterings – Round 4

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During the St. Joe's/Canisius rivalry game, renowned bloggers hoopster & Bullsfan snuck into a pair of seats on press row, pretending to be photographers for Max Preps.  The pair were soon ejected from their seats when they were unable to produce any cameras or neccessary credentials.

 

Roy-Hart scored just 27 points against Wilson in a 25-point loss.  In the same week, the Rams scored 75 points against Medina in a 38-point win.

 

Tommy Campion of Jamestown  scored 28 points, grabbed eight boards, had five steals, and four assists in a 74-43 win over Lancaster.

 

Hutch-Tech outscored South Park, 22-0, in the second quarter of its 83-24 victory.

 

I'm not a fan of gyms that only have bleachers on one side.

 

Darnell Carson scored 32 of CSAT's 59 points in a victory over Akron.

 

Stephen Hughes scored 33 of Clarence's 59 points in a loss to Jamestown.

 

A win against East Aurora Friday night would give Amherst a two-game lead in the ECIC III race.

 

As the Marauders' lead against Canisius reached double-digits, the Rowdies' chants of recent sports dominance made it all the way to "just like bowling".

 

Niagara Catholic held Cardinal O'Hara to just 17 points in a recent win.  The Hawks are just the latest school to fall victim to that trademark Patriot defense.

 

Martin Bailey scored 19 of his 26 points during the second half, to lead Kenmore West to its first ever victory over the Wolverines.

 

Aaron Frasier had a triple-double (13 points, 10 assists, 10 rebounds) to lead MST Seneca past Holland, 51-47. 

 

In Olean's gymnasium, there's a large mural of a pack of Huskies busting through a wooden wall, painted on a cement wall.

 

Bishop Timon/St. Jude trailed by one point at halftime of its 78-44 victory over Niagara Catholic.

 

Olean held Gowanda to just five points in the first half of its 83-18 win.

 

Brady Morrison scored 13 points during Randolph's 63-58 overtime win against Cassadaga Valley to become just the fourth Cardinal to eclipse the 1,000 career point total.  The school's all-time leader is his older brother, Blake, who finished with 1,440 career points.  The next Cardinal to reach 1,000 may be his younger brother Bryce, a freshman starter at Randolph.

 

McKinley recorded 37 team steals in its 63-52 win against visiting Riverside.

 

Sherman handed Clymer its first league loss of the season last night, with a 50-47 victory over the Pirates.

 

-centercourt

38 responses to “Random Smatterings – Round 4”

  1. Lucky13 Avatar
    Lucky13

    CC, did #5 Anderson for Kearney look like he was getting around ok? When he hurt himself at Timon just last Friday, it looked pretty bad…and Obokoh, did he look 100% or struggling?

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  2. TML1000 Avatar
    TML1000

    Bullsfan didn’t mention that part at the UB game last night. Classic stuff.

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  3. Lakemen Fan Avatar
    Lakemen Fan

    and Wilson can take a 3 game lead in the Niagara/Orleans league with a win @ Newfane tonight. Won’t be easy!
    Go Lakemen!

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  4. centercourt Avatar
    centercourt

    Both appeared to be getting around just fine. The biggest factor in BK losing last night was Aquinas being better and tougher.
    In the first meeting between the two, English & Foster were a major part of the game for BK. Last night, both were quiet.
    I can’t say enough about the combination of Valenti & White for AQ – what a tandem to have. Joe’s definitely had the right game plan for them (stopping those two) in their meeting two weeks ago.
    Watching BK last night made me wonder what the Class A regional will be like this year. I just don’t see anyone from Sec VI matching up with that team at full strength.
    When things were getting chippy and out of hand last night, there were some very inappropriate things being yelled from the crowd. I was sitting near AQ head coach Mike Grosodonia, who had a great prespective on things and basically said, Wow, it’s just a game…it’s high school sports, just a game.
    Looking ahead, and assuming everything plays out the way I would forecast it to, the Section V AA crossover game should be East vs. Aquinas. That would be a phenomenal matchup.
    TML – I know crazy stuff right? hoopster said his cell phone was his camera.
    ** There, some random smatterings within Random Smatterings.

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  5. Mel P Avatar
    Mel P

    This debate over Mark Simon and Jim Palano is ridiculous. Mark is clearly the better coach and if there was a coach of the year award this year it would go to him for sure. Jim deserved no statue or whatever he got on our home floor. Mark has more league titles, Manhattan Cup titles, etc. Jim is an average coach and mediocre coaching should not be rewarded. Put Jack Herlan in charge of Timon and they might lost a game this year. Where are all the Canisius fans now? I hear silence!
    So again enough with the Simon-Palano debate there is no contest. Jim will never be in the class of his Father.

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  6. centercourt Avatar
    centercourt

    Lakemen Fan –
    I mentioned the potential for Amherst to take a two-game lead in ECIC III because it would be a big deal for a team that I heard no one predicting would win the league back in November.
    Wilson being where they are is not quite as surprising. Now if they compete for the league next year, THAT would surprise me. Lakemen will be hit hard with player turnover after this year.
    Enjoy the game at Newfane tonight, because I think the rivalry will take a competitive dip for at least a year after this one. The good news is they’ll be back again, the quality programs never stay down long.
    Also, I read on the Prep Talk chat last night where City Honors (Class B2 along with Wilson) is feeling pretty good about themselves lately. One comment alluded to them playing Olean, which would have them winning B2…which has them looking past Wilson already.

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  7. TML1000 Avatar
    TML1000

    How soon does the gym get packed? Not sure if I can get out there in time from Tonawanda.

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  8. Lakemen Fan Avatar
    Lakemen Fan

    Thanks for the explanation. I don’t get out of the N-O too much. Next year will be a surprise if Wilson contends. City Honors is a solid team, but they do an awful lot of talking. They never seem to meet expectations.
    TML – N-O league moved their JV start time up (except Albion) to 5:00 and varsity starts shortly after. I would plan on arriving no later than 5:30 to secure a seat.
    Enjoy the games.

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  9. TML1000 Avatar
    TML1000

    Hm…should be able to make it if I leave right from work…still haven’t made up my mind. I’ve always wanted to catch one of those rivalry games and this seems to be the time to do it.

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  10. centercourt Avatar
    centercourt

    Do it and check your email first.

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  11. Patrick Moran Avatar
    Patrick Moran

    After the “McKinley recorded 37 steals” portion of your smatterings, you should’ve followed it up with the “Macks missed about 97 shots from the floor and foul line”.
    In all seriousness, I don’t know what to make of that team. They are so incredibly athletic– they are a team of better athletes than basketball players. They cause hell on defense for 32 minutes and have the legs, and depth to run with anyone in WNY. They could definitely win SEction VI at Buffalo State next month.
    They can also lose in the quarterfinals because they flat-out do not shoot the ball well. They have 1-2 kids who I keep hearing are good shooters but would only be the 4th or 5th best shooters on most good teams I’ve seen this year.
    I’m not mocking the Macks. This team is unbelievably good defensively and will never get blown out because of that alone. I just think coach Dorsey ( who is a real leader and does a fantastic job) needs to find a way to get a much better half court offense going or they will run into trouble when it matters.

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  12. WT716 Avatar
    WT716

    Enough with the comparisons between Simon and Palano. Nothing against Timon basketball, they do very very well for a school that does not come close to the size of a Joes or a Canisius. Palano has been a part of Timon athletics for 39 years, and look what he has done with that program. You put Palano at Canisius or Joes and he wins multiple MMA championships. Palano is a class act and as a CHS alum, I hope Kyle Husband and the people at CHS do something similar to what Joes did.

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  13. PJB Avatar
    PJB

    Pat, McKinley will be a tough out, I don’t think there are a lot of teams that will consistently be able to get the ball over half court much less be able to get into their offense and generate good scoring chances. in the St joes game at the Pastor, McKinley would have been up 20 in the first half if they made their layups. To beat them someone will have to have a variety of competent ball handlers and some big guys who can take advantage at the other end of the press. i’m not sure there a lot of teams outside the MMA, Olean, NF, James that fit that description in WNY.

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  14. centercourt Avatar
    centercourt

    I agree and think that unless Riverside wins A2 and puts it all together in the crossover, the Macks should be playing in the regionals in March. However, BK has all the qualities you mentioned as neccessary to beat McKinley…and then some. I credit much of the Macks success this year, as Pat did, to coaching. Dorsey has absolutely put his mark on that team since taking over for Daye.

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  15. Patrick Moran Avatar
    Patrick Moran

    I wasn’t really criticizing McKinley, I was attempting to analyze them. They can absolutely win Sectionals at Buffalo State. Hell,their defense is so absurd they can shoot under 30% from the floor and still have a chance to win.

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  16. Patrick Moran Avatar
    Patrick Moran

    If anyone’s interested in reading my write-up from the Canisius vs Timon game tonight here it is.
    http://www.buffalosportsdaily.com/canisius-gets-defensive-on-timon/
    BTW, I think this weekend may be time for my annual scathing Timon column. After they got up 10-0 and 21-11 in this game, this was about as pathetic as I’ve seen them play in 2 years. I’m sorry, but my opinion is this too talented a team to be 0-7 against Joe’s and Canisius over the past 2 years. Worst part is they barely even look like a team sometimes.
    These kids are too talented to put forth the kind of performance and at times–effort I saw tonight.

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  17. The Phoenix Avatar
    The Phoenix

    Come on Centercourt! Where’s the writeup of last nights big Newfane win? Don’t be a slacker!

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  18. Lakemen Fan Avatar
    Lakemen Fan

    Phoenix – Here it is:
    Newfane won 45-42. Newfane played extremely physical defense and the Lakemen did not have an answer. Newfane played an all around good game. I didn’t see a lot of great play on either offensive end, but that is because of the tenacity of the defense. Particularly, Sears and Seefeldt. Weber hit a couple difficult short corner jumpers and Newfane dominated the boards in the second half. In my opinion, that was the difference in the game. Newfane also contained Martin exceptionally well. The game wasn’t an offensive juggernaut, but it was a hard fought game on both sides.
    Congratulations to the Newfane players, Coach Klump and their fans.

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  19. Sam Avatar
    Sam

    That’s very classy Lakemen fan.

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  20. Patrick Moran Avatar
    Patrick Moran

    I have to apologize for information in this smatterings that is MY fault, not CC’s. I incorrectly told him Kobis (Timon) reached 1,000 points for this career. There was a scoring error in tabulating his points, and he’s not at 1,000 yet (he’ll be there soon)
    That’s 100% my bad for giving him the wrong info.

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  21. Brett Avatar
    Brett

    Ryan Schneggenburger (JV Manager at Williamsville North) swished a half-court shot at halftime of the UB basketball game on Wednesday.

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  22. WT716 Avatar
    WT716

    Was at that game, personally did not think he was going to make it

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  23. SJ Rules Avatar
    SJ Rules

    I don’t think Jack Herlan gets enough credit for what is happening w St Joe’s. Mark Simon gets too much credit. Jack has put new life into the JV progam and is a huge part of why they are headed to Glens Falls to win a Federation title. With Reggie in the middle, they will not be stopped. Jack however is a great tactian and I feel just doesn’t get enough credit for his all around greatness. Best assistant coach in WNY for sure, and an even better person. Lowsy bowler.

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  24. Ricky Avatar
    Ricky

    ^ They still gotta get past CHS and/or Timon to win the Manhattan Cup.
    I think the whole coaching staff deserves credit, even with the best player in WNY everyone wrote Joe’s off. But they have developed the heck out their players(specifically Oliveri and Glover) and built an overall very strong team around Reggie, even after losing Chad and Dzewitz.

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  25. Peter Avatar
    Peter

    We definitely have the best 1-2 coaching staff. Jack would be the second best coach in the MMA if he was coaching at one of the other schools. I’m not worried about Timon or Canisius. I saw their game. Timon wasn’t good at all. Canisius was just a little better. And if Reggie isn’t POY then something is definitely wrong. He’s is head and shoulders better than anyone else.

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  26. Ricky Avatar
    Ricky

    ^ Well Timon took us to OT and CHS is still a very talented team. Either team is very capable of winning in th eplayoffs

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  27. guest Avatar
    guest

    As a Joe’s supporter, I am confident that we can handle either team, however we must continue to play at a high level. Any of these three are capable of winning the cup. At this point until they all play round two of as the MMA turns Joe’s is the favorite. They could all easily be 1-1 against each other at the end of the regular season.

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  28. Division 1 Avatar
    Division 1

    Not a good idea imo for St. Joes players or supporters to be talking about federation tournament when team has not completed second leg of Big 3 action or Manhattan Cup. You win them one at a time so only talk should be about Timon coming up on thursday. Just play the game and let rest fall where it may.

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  29. Ricky Avatar
    Ricky

    ^ Absolutely agree

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  30. Peter Avatar
    Peter

    Me too. One game at a time all the way to a federation title!

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  31. Dark TML Avatar
    Dark TML

    I will not disrespect the success tht Mark and Jack have had at $t. Joe’$. However you should be successful when you get quality players to come to your school.

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  32. Truth Be Told Avatar
    Truth Be Told

    Ditto to Dark TML Although, the word is “recruit” not “get”.

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  33. dumb & dumber Avatar
    dumb & dumber

    you both sound like idiots! don’t you guys have anything to offer to the conversation besides
    whaaa!!! catholics recruit whaaaa???
    seriously, that is such tired, whiney, unoriginal material that centercourt should just block you clowns from leaving comments. clever with the $ for s too. where do you come up with such witty things?

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  34. Guest Avatar
    Guest

    Agree with Dark TML – easy to coach the best players – harder to coach players you are given – due to district limitations.

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  35. jackherlan Avatar
    jackherlan

    If it’s so easy to coach the best players then why do so many criticize the way in which it is done?

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  36. TakeItToTheHole Avatar
    TakeItToTheHole

    And the catholic schools don’t play in the sectional tournament in Section 6 like they do in Section 5 so why complain about the recruiting? I’m more of a public school fan but come on, recruiting isn’t going to stop and it’s not like St. Joe’s is going to beat down your public school at Buff State so what does it matter?

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  37. Dark TML Avatar
    Dark TML

    Dumb and Dumber. I am not complaining that the Catholic schools recruit. They are well within their rights to do so. My cousin was recruited to play hockey at both Nichols and St. Francis. I would just like the coaches to stop saying that they don’t. If I was a parent and my son or daughter was a good athlete and I lived in the City of Buffalo I would jump at the chance for them to go to Joe’s or Canisius. It opens up academic opportunities that them may not have at BCS.

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  38. Guest Avatar
    Guest

    Every student that attends a private/Catholic school is “recruited”, athlete or not. This is how these schools survive, they need to attract students to stay afloat.

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