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I love it when a player comes in during a Prep Talk chat using some johnny-come-lately name and asks a question about himself.  It's always like "Hey Keith, what do you think of that so-and-so kid from XYZ.  I see he scored 27 the other night, making a case for All-WNY".  

 

Here are the last four point totals from junior Darnell Carson of CSAT: 32, 27, 29, & 20.

 

One of my favorites is when a player jumps out of bounds to save a ball, only to throw it against the back of the backboard.

 

There are only three teams in WNY that haven't lost to a team from WNY: St. Joe's, Jamestown, and Olean.

 

Stan Wier dropped 37 points on the Warriors in East Aurora's 71-44 win over Cheektowaga, Quinten Campbell scored 33 points to lead Kenmore West past Lew-Port, 62-49, and Jon Gemerek finished with 31 points to lift Depew past Maryvale, 66-59.

 

Cheektowaga trailed Springville, 45-31 after three quarters of play.  The Warriors then used a 31-9 fourth quarter to comeback and win, 62-54.

 

Akron saw four of its players score a team-high eight points and held Wilson to single-digits in all four quarters of a 53-25 stunner in the N-O.

 

Kyle Kobis led Bishop Timon/St. Jude with 24 points, as the Tigers earned a 62-42 victory against St. Francis.  During the win, Kobis sank a 3-pointer that lifted him past 1,ooo points for his career.

 

Olean is New York State's #1 ranked team in Class B.

 

I see a lot of the same faces at the big games each week, including one of the players.  If the Warriors aren't practicing or playing, Clayton Hess of Tonawanda can be found at a high school basketball game somewhere. 

 

Grand Island picked up its first league win of the season over Niagara Wheatfield on Friday, outscoring the Falcons 15-6 in the fourth quarter to comeback and win, 49-47.  It was the Vikings second straight victory.

 

Williamsville South topped Iroquois, 77-67, in a game with a high-scoring finish.  The Chiefs outscored the Billies, 31-30 in the fourth quarter.

  

Joe Lowery finished with 37 points in Niagara Catholic's loss to Walsh, Connor Keenan scored 37 points in a 76-72 loss to Iroquois, Barker sophomore Jake Haight put up 35 points & 21 rebounds on Newfane in a 74-64 loss, Sean Weisensal had 34 points for Maryvale in a loss to Depew, and Stan Wier of East Aurora scored 32 points in a losing effort at Amherst.

 

St. Joe's sophomore, Tyler Hill, a starter for the varsity football and JV basketball teams, was spotted cheering for the Panthers in the Blue Zone when Newfane beat Wilson on Thursday night.

 

Junior Zeddie Williams scored 18 points, grabbed 15 boards, and dished seven assists as Silver Creek avenged its only loss this season, beating Randolph, 57-54.

 

-centercourt

143 responses to “Random Smatterings – Round 5”

  1. PatrickMoran Avatar
    PatrickMoran

    Well, yeah that is true.. I remember last year CHS fans were chanting the alphabet at Chad Kelly when he was on the free throw line to insinuate he’s stupid, which admittedly I thought was very funny.
    So you’re probably still right. I think the “Reggie is 30” chant was funny and the “USA” chant was OK (I guess), but for a short time they chanted “Africa” and I didn’t think that was cool at all.

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  2. Paulie Avatar
    Paulie

    I agree with M.I.G. Rocky is responsible for the death of Apollo. I was telling him the entire time to stop the fight and Tony was screaming ‘throw the damn towel!!!’ so Rocky made a huge mistake he will have to live with forever.
    I got that meat-packing job back so gotta get back to it but good stuff here.

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  3. Truth Be Told Avatar
    Truth Be Told

    TO: SMH & DARK TML – you are right. McShea definitely has a MMA bias. NF beat Timon and KW could beat Timon, St. Mary’s and Walsh without a question. As to Stan Wier, he puts up big numbers, no doubt, but how could his team led by him lose to a Tonawanda or Amherst? He had 37 against Cheektowaga. Great. My question is why was he still in the game churning points when they were so far ahead? I guess his coach allows padding the stats as opposed to allowing other kids to play. I aasume that EA has more than 5 or 6 players on the team.

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  4. Real Truth be told Avatar
    Real Truth be told

    Isn’t Tonawanda 14-1? He sat out almost the entire 4th quarter. So you obviously were not at the game. I get Reggie people are coming on here under 20 different names trying to convince Keith he should get player of the year. He won’t. Did you read the story in the Buffalo News today? He barely got a mention. He did not do much vs Canisius either. Stan has to carry that team.
    Let me ask you this – does it matter to you as a Soph in the State Final 4 he had 58 team combined points vs Jamesville Dewitt and Long Island Luthern? Are those teams any good Reggie – I mean Ricky – and his Uncle – I mean Truth be told? So guys bring up him leading WNY in scoring vs teams that aren’t any good but don’t forget what he did against teams currently ranked 1 and 2 in the State when he was on Nichols. Stan also is the only player to actually have a D1 team waiting for his services. It’s great that St Peter’s is interested in Reggie but Stan is going to a school that may make the NCAA this year from a conference with an RPI of 12 right now out of 31.
    Stan is the clearn player of the year by any standard. Keith is smart enought to see that trust me.

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  5. MMA Avatar
    MMA

    Just put your name on the above post MIG. Don’t know why you would hide from those thoughts anyway. Besides, its not like anyone other than you supports Stan for POY.

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  6. centercourt Avatar
    centercourt

    Stan Wier is averaging 25.6 ppg and 10.9 rpg. He has gone over 30 five times this year, including his last four games:
    12/28 – 40 in a win over 2-15 West Seneca East
    01/27 – 32 in a loss to 6-11 Pioneer
    01/31 – 31 in a win over 2-13 Springville
    02/03 – 32 in a loss to 12-5 Amherst
    02/07 – 37 in a win over 7-8 Cheektowaga
    East Aurora is 11-5 this season, unranked in large school poll all season, and 2-2 vs. ranked small schools. They have not faced a ranked large school.
    Reggie Agbeko is averaging 19.5 ppg and 14.7 rpg.
    St. Joe’s 17-2 this season, ranked #1 in large schools, 5-0 vs. ranked large schools, 4-0 vs. ranked small schools, and the only team from New York State to defeat Aquinas this season.

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  7. Roundman Avatar
    Roundman

    Nice stats for both players Reggie sees tougher comp. Than Stan so his numbers would be lower..both have good basketball skills. Both help players around them become better.great wny talent

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  8. Roundman Avatar
    Roundman

    To bad Stan and Reggie were injured in the empire state games.we had a nice team just could not pull it off

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  9. Ricky Avatar
    Ricky

    Re-guards to the Timon fan section.
    The “Reggie’s 30” chant was good and “USA” chant is typical, but the “Africa” and “Where’s your papers” chants we tasteless. Also they chanted at the wrong times. I remember they did the USA chant when Oliveri was at the line and during a timeout. that just doesn’t make any sense. Chants directed at a player should go when they are at the charity stripe.

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  10. Ball hog Avatar
    Ball hog

    Wow MIG, guess you are right.Stan has to be poy. Had that 1 30 game against a winnign team. So what if they lost because he scored 30. amazing that he doing so well against such feirce competion. UB should be a breeze for him after goin off on Springville! He might never even have to learn to use his left hand!

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  11. guest Avatar
    guest

    Best part of that Cheektowaga game is 7 players scored but only 3 had more than 2 points and only 2 had more than 6, Cox had 20 and, and weir w/ 37 in a 28 point win. Come on Man! what’s the deal Coach? The Cox kid is solid w/ an inside and outside game. Should be fun to watch in years to come.

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  12. Panthers Avatar
    Panthers

    What is the update on that Bishop Timon Vs. Aquinas matchup tonight?

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  13. guest Avatar
    guest

    Final — Aquinas 80 – Timon 55 …..saw it on the sec V site

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  14. PJB Avatar
    PJB

    Ken West looked very average in beating NT tonight. No offense other the Bailey and Campbell. I don’t think they hit a shot outside of 10 ft. Zone gave them a lot of problem, they fail to get Campbell enough touches. Defensive effort was mediocre. can’t see them going to far in sectionals playing like that.

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  15. PJB Avatar
    PJB

    Truth be Told
    I agree that NF is better than St Marys and Walsh, but Im not sure that KW is. I think those games would be close. I think that KW has better top end players (Campbell and Bailey sometimes Lobdell but not nearly often enough) but very little after that. St Mary’s may have a little more depth. Walsh I’ve only seen once and didn’t seem to have much other than Whepley.

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  16. McShea is God Avatar
    McShea is God

    I guess we will c if I am the only person who supports Stan Weir 4 Player of the Year Saturday April 7th. But hey u guys r all right I never get the all WNY team or player of the year right I am just a dumb girl.
    Just keep in mind everytime u clows rip Stan u r ripping Reggie Whitherspoon.
    How come everytime u guys bring up him dropping 40 on Springville u don’t talk about him dropping almost 40 on Long Island Luthern in the State Championship game?
    I hear from a source Reggie isn’t even in the discussion for Player of the Year. It’s Stan’s award 2 lose boys. Look 4 a nice article on the 2012 Player of the year soon.

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  17. TML1000 Avatar
    TML1000

    PJB…both teams stunk tonight…Campbell sat most of first half with fouls…Bailey again put West on his back late and Lobdell stepped up with good 4th quarter D. KW just gets very stagnant against a zone but their athleticism always carries them out of it in the second half. Most every team has looked average this season at some points…NF looked very average when KW beat them…Jamestown did as well last night.
    KW is going to play NT or Lockport in the quarters, while Falls will get the other as long as North beats OP on Wednesday…in which it would be:
    1. J-town
    2/3. NF/KW coin flip
    4. Frontier
    5. North
    6. NT
    7. Lockport
    8. Clarence
    9. OP
    10. Lancaster
    11. N-W
    12. WSW
    If OP beats North things will change between 5 and 9.

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  18. Ricky Avatar
    Ricky

    I don’t get why people respect you MIG. You make irrational comments that put words in other mouths. Nobody, I mean nobody, doubts that Stan is a very good player. The problem is his team sucks. East Aurora plays lousy competition and still doesn’t have a good record.
    And you obviously made up that Reggie comment, because there is no way he isn’t the front runner for POY.

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  19. WT716 Avatar
    WT716

    After speaking with a coach on the Cheektowaga staff, I asked him with what he thought about Stan the man. His response, “He is not a D1 player”. Reggie has done a fantastic job recruiting players, Mitchell Watt, Titus Robinson, Javon McCrea, Jarod Oldham, and a pg from Canada they have coming in next year. He also snagged Regan and Zach Filzen who transferred to the UB program. Stan will struggle at UB.

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  20. TML1000 Avatar
    TML1000

    I wouldn’t take a all that much stock in someone saying Stan is not a D-1 player…at the very least he is a D-1 caliber shooter, who in the correct role, can in time become a productive player. Believe me…seeing where Filzen was three years ago to the player he is today when he is in a rhythm, he’s come a long way. Stan is farther along right now than Filzen was when he first came to UB.
    Stan is rated an 87…Jarryn Skeete, UB’s incoming pg prospect, is rated an an 83. With Oldham and Watson back, Skeete will very likely not see time next year. I expect Stan to at least see time, given the upcoming losses of Filzen and Barnett, two of UB’s top 4 shooting options this season. I’m not saying this because I’m a UB fan and I hope it works out, I’m saying it because Stan will be a legit D-1 player, with the possibility, in time, to become a productive one.

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  21. Ricky Avatar
    Ricky

    @Patrick Moran did you find out where Reggie has official offers from like you said?

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  22. Sam Avatar
    Sam

    Does anyone have the Aquinas/Joe’s score?

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  23. jackherlan Avatar
    jackherlan

    0-0. We play tomorrow.

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  24. Sam Avatar
    Sam

    Thanks and good luck Coach!

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  25. centercourt Avatar
    centercourt

    Canisius 54
    B Kearney 50
    Adam Weir scored a game-high 21 points, while Matt MacDonald added 15 points, including three 3-pointers, in the win.
    Chinonso Obokoh, the 6-10 junior, led the Kings with 19 points. Freshman standout, 6-8 Thomas Bryant, was held to nine points. BK played without Antwoine Anderson.

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  26. Roundman Avatar
    Roundman

    Great job on defense tonight by canisius should an interesting week coming up

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  27. Truth Be Told Avatar
    Truth Be Told

    Some random thoughts: Also saw the KW v. NT game yesterday. Both teams are going to have problems going anywhere in the sectionals. I know I am being redundant but Campbell stands around in the paint without penalty. If you are bigger than everyone else and are allowed to stand around-you better score. The refs were terrible. My opinion is that Stan Wier hit high scoring numbers at Nichols because teams were keying on the other great players on that Nichols team. I also agree with Ball hog-Stan better learn how to use his left paw. Hate to pick on them but St. Mary’s is the most overated team discussed on this site.

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  28. Roundman Avatar
    Roundman

    Canisius did a great job against the two big men on bishop kerney.they both played the whole game. Nice effort tonight

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  29. guest Avatar
    guest

    CC–someone in the chat on Wed. said that Antoine Anderson quit the team.

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  30. centercourt Avatar
    centercourt

    I did read that. Was also told from someone else that there was a different issue and that he may play again. I really don’t know what the actual story is. Either way, that team without Anderson is noteworthy. However, I don’t say that to take anything away from what is possibly the best Crusader win of the season. Beating a team with two future D1 players is a great achievement and a great way to represent WNY.
    So to recap, St. Joe’s beats Aquinas, who beats Canisius and Timon. Canisius and Timon beat Bishop Kearney, who beat St. Joe’s. Gotta love high school basketball. Polls are lots of fun, but thank god for the postseason, or debates would just rage on forever.

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  31. Lucky13 Avatar
    Lucky13

    Ricky, Division1 had a bunch of information back on the Poll Ballots-Week Three post.

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  32. TML1000 Avatar
    TML1000

    What teams are not going to have problems going places in the sectionals then guys? There is one answer…Niagara Falls.

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  33. Yale Cup Avatar
    Yale Cup

    Truth be told,
    Agreed on St. Mary’s. But the will win their 2 games and be back at states and it will only get worse, because they made it back to “states”. 3-5 vs ranked schools. Beat Timon (also overrated),hutch tech & Wilson, lost to Joes, Canisius, Olean, Walsh & Depew.

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  34. McShea is God Avatar
    McShea is God

    Nice doubleheader 2day…watch Syracuse beat U Conn w 33,000 of my close friends (with a stop at Varsity Pizza 1st of course) then off w the kid 2 c UB hold off W Michigan (nice halftime chat w my namesake!)…then c Joe’s tomorrow!
    If Aquinas beats Joe’s….Joe’s will have split w Aquinas and lost 2 Kearney, Canisius will have split with Kearney and lost 2 Aquinas (without Matt Hart)…so Joe’s stays #1 this week no matter what happens tomorrow but whoever wins the game next Saturday takes over #1 again the following week. Then part 3 Feb 29th.
    Hey all u Stan haters I didn’t c anyone comment that he dropped 34 on Pittsford Mendon currently ranked 21st in the State Class A poll…did u guys all miss that I guess? He also broke Dave Mallon’s East Aurora single season scoring record after 16 games. He has now scored 30 in SIX straight games and contiunes 2 lead ALL PLAYERS in scoring in WNY doing it a level not seen since the days of Johnny Flynn….Stan IS Player of the Year take that 2 the bank guys. O and ‘WT716’ and assistant coach at Cheektowaga ‘doesn’t think Stan is a D1 player’
    DID U ACTUALLY SAY THAT??? HA! Did u get his thoughts on the situation with Iran and Israel while u were at it? I’m sure we would all love 2 know what ‘a coach at Cheektowaga’ had 2 say about that…please tell me u meant that as a joke. Maybe the coach at Cheektowaga will take over at UB 4 Reggie 1 day? I said it two months ago Stan will b the next Zach Filzen at UB (let me guess Ricky and WT716 u have never heard of him). Can’t wait 2 watch him and Will next year. Player of the year is OVER. Stan has that award won. He is the only guy going D1 in the area, returning 2nd team player, case closed.
    Unless the ‘coach at Cheet-Vegas’ disagrees!

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  35. Ricky Avatar
    Ricky

    Stan actually dropped 34 on Pittsford Sutherland, currently ranked 78 in NYS.
    Stan is not POY. Not saying he isn’t talented, but his competition is weak

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  36. Panthers Avatar
    Panthers

    MIG….enough with pushing the POY envelope for Stan Weir. The kid is talented and does need you to pub for him. Sectionals are coming up so we will see if he carries his team to the championship or not. Whether he wins it or not he will be at UB carrying that torch for RW’s program end of story. I mean as you put it since he is the only player going D1 in the area, you do not have a thing to be concerned about. He has locked up the POY trophy?!?!

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  37. Roundman Avatar
    Roundman

    I look for nf to be there for the long run could be Crumptons time to shine and possible poy award

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  38. mark simon Avatar
    mark simon

    St Joes/Aquinas Cancelled today beacuse of the weather..

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  39. Lowery for POY Avatar
    Lowery for POY

    Its almost comical the way Mig goes aabout pumping Stan. Five in a row over 30 is amazing even if it includes Springville anfd Pioneer. No need to lie and say it was six games though. Then he pretends they beat a better Pittsford team than they really did just to make it sound better.
    Leading scorer in Sec6? Maybe but could just as easily call Reggie the leading rebounder or Campion the leader in steals. Maybe Joe Lowery is the leading scorer, he goes over 30 all the time too. Joe Lowery for POY! NC will probabaly goe just as far this year but plays tougher competition. The Lowery for POY campaign starts today!!
    Funny how there are only 3 things you use to make the case for Stan: the past, the future, and scoring. All about what he did with Nichols, that hes going to UB, and that he scores alot in ecic3. Great arguments. Reggie averages six less on a good team against way better competition. If he played for EA and was the only option like you say Stan is then I’m sure he could score 3 more baskets a game although they probably wouldnt be losing to teams like Pioneer and Tonawanda.

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  40. Dark LMT Avatar
    Dark LMT

    I was also at the KW v NT game on Friday. NT is a physical team with enough size to match up with Campbell. NT did a good job of slowing the game down and forcing KW into playing half court basketball. KW does not want to play half court basketball, they want to get out and run. As for not being a good game, I thought it was an intense, physical affair between two schools that really don’t like each other which is going to lead to sloppy basketball.

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  41. Ricky Avatar
    Ricky

    Will AQ v. Joes be rescheduled?

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  42. Patrick Moran Avatar
    Patrick Moran

    Ricky,
    To answer your question, I do not know of what schools have made an “official” offer to Reggie. I can tell you that several MAAC and Atlantic-10 schools are very interested in him (Toledo, Niagara, Rider among them). He doesn’t plan on choosing any school until the season is over; I’ve heard sometime in March.
    Things can change because it all it takes is one school for him to determine he’s the best fit for; but right now I’d be surprised if isn’t playing ball at a MAAC or A-10 school next year.

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  43. Ricky Avatar
    Ricky

    I know for fact that Bonnies has(or had) super interest in him. I’ve seen Bonnies scouts at his games more than once and I’ve read(maybe here) that they do in fact want him.

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  44. jackherlan Avatar
    jackherlan

    Game will not be rescheduled, we already play league games Tues, thurs, and Sat..
    Only MAAC school that hasn’t shown interest in Reggie is Canisius. A-10s include Bona and Fordham. MACs Toledo and UB. And yes he is on Oklahomas list. Choices are good.

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  45. TML1000 Avatar
    TML1000

    Weather? What weather?

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  46. jackherlan Avatar
    jackherlan

    Apparently the weather was very bad in Rochester – they cancelled.

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  47. Sam Avatar
    Sam

    They cancelled because they didn’t want to lose again Coach! Good job pummelling them the first time.

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  48. jackherlan Avatar
    jackherlan

    Thanks Sam, but I highly doubt it.

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  49. Ricky Avatar
    Ricky

    Would have like to see Valenti v. Agbeko again, darn.

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  50. guest Avatar
    guest

    Antoine anderson did quit team,not happy. kid gets to play in front of countless scouts because of the bigs,has the green light and isnt happy. this stuff gets old

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