On January 20, 2012, Stan Wier scored 19 points to lead East Aurora past Maryvale in ECIC III  action.  After that win, Wier had 278 points on the season through 12 games, good for an average of 23.1 points per game.  Bolstering that number was his season and career-high 40-point performance in a holiday tournament win against West Seneca East back in December.  Aside from Wier's career night, his two best outputs on the season were 28 points against OTC/MEC in the MLK Classic and 27 points against Maryvale when the teams met for the first time in December. 

 

Then on January 27th, the Blue Devils visited Pioneer and Wier embarked on the kind of scoring streak rarely seen in high school basketball.  Beginning that night and in the four games since, Wier has scored over 30 points.  Here's a game-by-game look at the recent streak and how each game improved his season scoring average:

 

01/27 vs. Pioneer  – 32 points (23.8 ppg)

01/31 vs. Springville – 31 points (24.3 ppg)

02/03 vs. Amherst – 32 points (24.9 ppg)

02/07 vs. Cheektowaga – 37 points (25.6 ppg)

02/10 vs. Pittsford Sutherland – 34 points (26.1 ppg)

 

Averaging 33.2 over his last five games has moved his season average up a full three points to 26.1 ppg.  The pace has drawn comparisons to the torrid one Jonny Flynn treated us to in 2007.  I decided to go back to that season and find not only Flynn's numbers, but the numbers of other players who scored at a similar pace since Flynn played locally. Here's what I found:

 

2007 – Jonny Flynn (Niagara Falls) – 29.5 ppg

2009 – Robbie Seyler (Lew-Port) – 29.4 ppg

2011 – Jaysean Paige (Jamestown) – 26.1 ppg

2007 – Dominique Kendrick (Jamestown) 25.4 ppg

2011 – Blair Estarfaa (Maryvale) – 25.1 ppg

2009 – Lucas Haskell (Pioneer) – 25.0 ppg

2011 – Dazmond Knight (Tapestry) – 24.7 ppg

2008 – Edwin Ramulic (Kenmore West) – 24.3 ppg

 

Interestingly, three of the above mentioned players competed in Class A2 (Seyler, Estarfaa, & Haskell) and two of them in ECIC III (Estarfaa & Haskell), the same level of competition Wier is seeing.  Four of the above players played in Class AA and one in Class C.

 

 So what does it all mean? 

For Seyler (29.4 ppg), who dropped 35 on eventual Class AA state runner-up Niagara Falls and the only player close to Flynn's output, he only made fourth team All-WNY with the News.  I had him as second team that year, due to a quarterfinal loss in the A2 sectionals – otherwise he may have made my top five.  Seyler went on to finish 14th in scoring nationally in the NJCAA as a freshman and was 11th in the nation as a sophomore.  He also shot 47% from downtown that year (47 of 101).

 Haskell (25.0 ppg) also finished on fourth team and his Panthers were ousted in the A2 quarterfinals as well.  Estarfaa (25.1 ppg) made it on to second team last year.  His Flyers also fell in the A2 quarterfinals.

Ramulic (24.3 ppg) was a fourth teamer and Knight (24.7) made third team after leading his team to the Class C final, before falling to state semifinalist I-Prep.  Kendrick (25.4 ppg) wound up on the second team after his Red Raiders fell in the Class AA semifinals to Niagara Falls.

For Flynn and Paige, it meant Player of the Year.  Flynn went on to the NBA and Paige took his team to the Class AA state title game. 

 

Tonight, Wier's Blue Devils face a Depew team that held him to his lowest output of the season, an 11-point game on January 12th.  Between his limited scoring in their first matchup and the five-game streak he is enjoying right now, Wier should be plenty motivated to light up the Wildcats tonight.  With a light hoops schedule tonight, there might be a lot of hoops fans who turn out to see Wier in action.  I know I'll be there.

 

-centercourt

73 responses to “Stan Wier amidst a major scoring outburst”

  1. WT716 Avatar
    WT716

    Can’t wait to see what MIG has to say about this post.

  2. Ricky Avatar
    Ricky

    ^This.
    Stan is a helluva player, but the difference between Paige, Flynn and Weir is that Paige and Flynn won.

  3. jj43 Avatar
    jj43

    What about guys from this year like Lalka, Frasier, Carter, Lowery, Whelpley? None of them are averaging 24 per/game?

  4. centercourt Avatar
    centercourt

    Through 19 games, Whelpley was averaging 20.7 ppg for Archbishop Walsh.
    Through 15 games, Carter was averaging 21.3 ppg for City Honors.
    Not sure on the others, I would have to contact their coaches.

  5. TML1000 Avatar
    TML1000

    Stan won too when he was surrounded by other strong talent, just as Jonny and Paige were. Jonny didn’t even win the section his senior year.
    If Joe’s wins MMA…Reggie has a shot…if they get to Fed he is the favorite. If EA makes a good run, and Joe’s doesn’t make Fed, Stan is basically a lock.

  6. TML1000 Avatar
    TML1000

    Bailey is avg right about 18ppg for KW.

  7. Clerico Avatar
    Clerico

    Taking from the News box scores.
    Lalka averaging about 22.5 ppg. for Tonawanda.

  8. Ricky Avatar
    Ricky

    Maybe I’m wrong but POY shouldn’t be a career award, it should be a season award.
    *Referring to TML1000

  9. guest Avatar
    guest

    lowery has big numbers,1000pts in 2 yrs. where does that put him in poy and all wny talk and nc has played a better schedule then ea

  10. TML1000 Avatar
    TML1000

    I agree it shouldnt be a career award, but the excuse that Stan plays against inferior competition and his numbers should be lessened is shot down by the fact that when he did play against good competition, with much better teammates, he also put up good numbers.
    Someone said he wouldnt have close to the same numbers if he played on Canisius….I argue ge would have similar numbers. With better teammates, especially a great passing team like Canisius, he would not have to create his own shot nearly as often, something that is not a strength of his.

  11. coach Avatar
    coach

    If he played at Canisius he would play about 28 minutes in competitive games and one half to three quarters in blowouts. Like the current regulars. He’d be playing with three future college players who average 50 points between them. Hard to believe those three would put a lid on their games just to feed him the ball. With only one ball and a 32 minute game I say he wouldn’t average 20.

  12. Ricky Avatar
    Ricky

    ^3 college players? Weir and Hart will play college ball. But you think White or McDonald will play collegiate ball? Maybe McDonald plays at Medaille?

  13. HS BBall Fan Avatar
    HS BBall Fan

    Stan Wier put up 16-17ppg playing with Regan as a sophomore and I heard it was the same at LaLumiere, playing with and against the best in the country.
    Last 7 games: MaxPreps says 30+ average, usually against every defense possible, as the opponents sole effort is to stop him. I’ve caught a few of them, Lets not forget 11+ boards per game, all from the PG position and EA is winning as the smallest school in the large school bracket…..If its a numbers game: he will be tough to beat. If its a defensive game or a hustle game: tough to argue against for POY.

  14. Jelly Donut Avatar
    Jelly Donut

    are you kidding me…white and macdonald will both play college basketball (if they choose)…in fact i suspect macdonald will play at a scholarship level somewhere (probably D-2) because of his size, smarts and uncanny ability to shoot the ball
    as for stan wier, i think he is a great talent, but reggie is right there with him. in fact, i’d put reggie slightly ahead right now for POY…until east aurora wins something

  15. McShea is God Avatar

    I love this post! Jelly Donut what do u mean ‘until East Aurora wins something’…like what? When Will Reagan won POY in 2009 what did Nichols win? The fact this team is as good as they is because of Stan. Reggie doesn’t need 2 carry Joe’s Stan has 2 carry EA. Reggie-Stan it’s not even close. TML is right Reggie would have 2 get 2 the Fed and have EA not even get 2 the Riverside game.
    Was at the game 2nite at times I couldn’t tell if Larry would rather stop Stan from getting 30 (he ended up with 26) or win the game! 3-4 guys would b all over Stan when he had the ball and he would just kick it out 4 his team-mates 2 nail open 3’s. It happened SEVERAL times! Stan also had 10 rebounds again but his 30 point binge did end.
    What do I think of CC’s post? I think J Paige last years player of the year averaged 26.1 points a game and this years player of the year averges 26.1 points a game.
    Because it is such a weak year, it can become even more of a career award, giving another reason Stan should win it. Also in Feb of 2007 a great article by my namesake came out about Flynn. 2 months later he was named player of the year. In Feb 2010 a great story by Keith came out about Will. 2 months later he was named Player of the year. Tomorrow in Feb 2012 I am sure another great story will come out about Stan. And April 7th he will b named player of the year.
    It’s over fella’s! Stan is the Man.
    PS – TML what about Syracuse now? On the road at Louiville and nice wins over top 12 teams Marquette, Georgetown, and Florida at home. Let’s get that 1996 Finals rematch April 2nd Kentucky vs Syracuse!!!

  16. Panthers Avatar
    Panthers

    Nice story on Stan Wier in the Buffalo News today. Hardworker who will be successful at UB and most importantly where ever life takes him. Ball is like life, you get what you put in!
    Buffalo News should continue such features on the other stories of WNY bball like Lowery, Campion, Whepley, Hart, A. Weir, Crumpton, Agbeko, and the many others. Will open more doors of opportunity for our players.

  17. Ricky Avatar
    Ricky

    White is like 5’6. Hard to play college ball at that height.
    I’m gonna stop with arguing POY for now because the people who think Stan will win are stuck on that side and those for Reggie on the other side.
    In a couple weeks maybe the winner is more obvious, right now I think it’s rather vague.

  18. TML1000 Avatar
    TML1000

    Yea…it’s a road win over a decent team, but it’s such a down year in the Big East and NCAA in general that any I’m not ready to say any team is close to great. The game itself was awful…both teams were lucky to even get in the 50’s.
    They have a shot, but I would be surprised if another middy doesn’t make the FF. Cuse, just like any of the top teams, can lose to an experienced, hot shooting middy.

  19. coach Avatar
    coach

    Ricky what’s your point on Medialle? I said college basketball, is it not? Truth is what coach Mac is doing over there is a fantastic success story and should be celebrated. On the verge of another NCAA berth. Giving lots of great kids a chance to realize their dreams of playing college ball and play in NCAA tourney. Many of them local. Not all kids are 6’3″ 210 (Stan) or 6’7″ 225 and jump out of the gym (Reggie) at 18 years old. It’s become a great option for talented kids who aren’t blessed with big time bodies. Your post sounds like a diss on the Mavs, coach Mac and D III.

  20. Payola Dave Avatar
    Payola Dave

    I went to see Lalka play last night and he lit it up w/ 8 3’s. The kid can shoot and is leading a winning team to a Division title. However after reading the Buffalo News this morning and the recap of last nights EA game, it is clear that MIG and all the Stan backers are correct on POY. MCshea has a love affair w/ Stan. Not that he doesnt deserve the recognition. Reggie’s only chance would be Co-POY. Lalka 1st team?? Also, how would everyone compare Regan to Reggie?

  21. Lucky13 Avatar
    Lucky13

    Co-POY:’80-’81
    ’94-’95
    ’95-’96
    ’09-’10
    ’11-’12 ???
    http://www.buffalonews.com/sports/high-schools/article42527.ece

  22. Lucky13 Avatar
    Lucky13

    Could the Reggie and Stan factions stand it if they were co-POY, UB shows more interest, Reggie chooses UB, both factions are forced to sit together at games next 4 years, RA & SW are lifelong friends often flying back & forth together to and from Ghana? 🙂

  23. centercourt Avatar
    centercourt

    Regan’s numbers from 2010, the year they won the Fed, are almost identical to Agbeko’s numbers this year. Obviously, they are different types of players, with Agbeko being more athletically gifted, while Regan was possibly the most polished big man ever to come out of WNY.
    2010 Regan – 19.6 ppg, 14.1 rpg
    2012 Agbeko – 19.1 ppg, 14.4 rpg
    (Agbeko’s numbers only reflect his first 19 games)

  24. centercourt Avatar
    centercourt

    Also, just got some numbers on MST Seneca’s Aaron Frasier for this year, and as expected, they are pretty eye-popping.
    23.0 ppg
    9.5 apg
    8.2 rpg
    Frasier is definitely one of the best I’ve seen this year, and in my opinion, the best player in the city.

  25. Lucky13 Avatar
    Lucky13

    Thanks CC for mentioning Frasier and his #s. He definitely deserves consideration. By the time it’s over, he and MST might go further than the other two if Joes doesn’t win the MMA.

  26. wny hooper Avatar

    Didn’t Lackawanna’s Blackburn average nearly 30 ppg in 2005?

  27. centercourt Avatar
    centercourt

    He may have, I only went back as far as Flynn’s senior year.

  28. South Buffalo Avatar

    How could you have Timon 9th? It makes no sense. They took Joe’s your #1 team to OT. Beat Bishop Kearney, only lost to great teams. You should not be allowed to vote at all if you truly think they are not top 5.

  29. centercourt Avatar
    centercourt

    Sounds like a troll, but I’ll take the bait.
    What should that plaque read again?
    They did take Joe’s to OT, and lost. Then in the rematch, they allowed a 33-5 run and lost again. They beat BK without Obokoh and with Anderson injured in the 4th. Still their best win, but show me something locally. They even fell at home to St. Mary’s, who followed up that win with a bad showing at Walsh.
    Like I stated in the Poll Ballots post, no wins over a top ten school. All the schools I placed above them have one. You could make a case for teams like Riverside and Frontier being ahead of them – I went the other way. Tough to argue with Jamestown and West being ahead of them. Remember, West won at Falls, something Timon could not do.
    I do think they’re a very good team, but it’s a poll and I do my best to be logical with the results. Keith told me I voted them lower than anyone else, so obviously you’re not the only one who questions my logic.
    Next time, rip me under the right post.

  30. TML1000 Avatar
    TML1000

    Yea…appropriate positioning of Timon…good losses only get you so far. At this stage of the season, you have to get some good W’s.

  31. Stan's Dad Avatar
    Stan’s Dad

    Just heard about this site yesterday. Thanks to everyone for their comments. It takes two sides to make a market and whoever put this site up: hats off! The market is rolling!!!!
    Having read all comments; I would like to provide some info the readers may not be aware of, as Stan has been absent from the area. Without it, judgement may be difficult. Stan has opted to test his skill and be blessed with the opportunity to prove himself successful as a teammate, scorer, defender, re-bounder, hustler and leader, on every possible stage: ECIC, Monsignor Martin, NYS Federation, Nationally ranked High School and Prep School competition and AAU National Level with Nike’s Albany City Rocks. Also against many ESPN Ranked players: Achraf Yacoubou (presently getting good minutes at Villanova, primarily for defense). Stan 31-Achraf 11, Nick Johnson (Findlay Prep/Arizona, Savon Goodman, Rick Ledo, etc. where in each instance, scored and MORE IMPORTANTLY, held these and many high ranked opponents in check. DEFENSE: Nobody ever talks about “D” and that, in my opinion, is where the games are won. Never enough attention to “D”; always points, points, points…..Stan’s defense and hustle speaks volumes, just ask his coach’s or those he’s played against. Proving himself at these levels turns opinion and the unknown, into fact and reality. It is precisely why he did it. To become better. For the question marks at the next level: more than 50, D1 coaches (Coach W, Coaches: Jim Baron,Driesel, Henderson, etc)would need to be wrong for some of the posts to be right. BBall minds might opt in favor of the opinions held by “the already proven” at the D1 level, rather than the “ricky” sort??? Many of those D1 heads were turned during July because of Defense and I have to admit, shooting 55+% from 3 land against “stud” defenders, helped his cause.
    INFO: As for this year, one of the main reasons Stan came back to Buffalo was the opportunity that he could learn the point guard position and play with his brother. He’s never played it and thought it would further round out his game for the future. The improvement is evident. As for his performance, (MaxPreps), always hard to compare a Point Guard vs.a Big
    Stat: Stan (PG) – Reggie:
    PPG 26* 19
    RB 11 14*
    Turnovers 31* 72
    2pt% 56%* 56%*
    3pt% 38%(47of123) 0% (0for1)
    FT% 74%
    55%
    FTA 133(nice* 125
    went to stripe more, in 3 less games, with a better %.
    Blocks 3 39
    (nice)
    Assists 46* 34
    Steals 43* 30
    Stats are just that, Stats: and are part of the measurement process. Stan has achieved success at every level offered answering many questions already. Reggie is a fine player and a very nice young man. My wife had the pleasure of driving him to the BCANY and said how much she enjoyed his company. We wish him and St. Joe’s well!
    Sorry for getting long winded but wanted to put the info out there. Best of luck to all the teams and boys in their playoff quests and that they all stay healthy.
    Let the market roll……

  32. Ricky Avatar
    Ricky

    I’m not dissing Medaille. I said McDonald may go there because his dad is coach. I made it out tobe a complement to Matt McDonald

  33. Ricky Avatar
    Ricky

    Oh and “Stan’s Dad”, I mean MIG, I don’t get why you’re respected here. You are the most obvious troll on the internet.

  34. centercourt Avatar
    centercourt

    I believe the comment above is from Mr. Wier.

  35. Walter W. Avatar
    Walter W.

    What is never mentioned about either Stan or Reggie is that they both are very humble. They show great composure at all times and want to lead their respective teams to a championship.
    I truly believe that whoever is awarded POY the other who did not win will be happy for him.
    Why who wins the award is more important to a contributor to this blog is more importtant to either Stan or Reggie or thier respective families is a little troubling and really makes no sense.
    Good luck to both and may you continue to be positive representatives for your schools.

  36. Ricky Avatar
    Ricky

    CC maybe it was Stans dad. I guess when I see multiple !’s I assume its MIG. Also the fact that it was about Stan made it seem even more like MIG, who has made fake names before.
    If it truly is Stan’s Dad(Great TV character btw) then I apologize.

  37. PJB Avatar
    PJB

    I’m really not sure what all the animosity over POY is. Both players have had outstanding years and a case could be made for either as POY. Obviously there are some very strong opinions on the subject, but all the debate in the world will not resolve the issue to everyones satisfaction. Demeaning either player certainly does not make anyones point stronger. Maybe there should be more debate as to who is the best team.
    IMO there are four teams that are a level above the rest, Canisius, St Joes,, Olean and NF. I would have included Timon earlier in the year, but their inability to beat NF, St Joes and Canisius even once does not cut it. To me this means that other than Class AA and the MMA all the other Sectional titles are up for grabs, which should make Buff State really exciting.

  38. Ricky Avatar
    Ricky

    Are MMA playoffs at Buff St. or Canisius College?

  39. TML1000 Avatar
    TML1000

    Canisius

  40. centercourt Avatar
    centercourt

    They’re at the Canisius College Koessler Center.

  41. Patrick Moran Avatar

    Stan is making 1st Team, All-WNY, I think that’s pretty obvious and based on his talent, it’s deserved.
    I don’t think he’ll sniff P.O.Y. unless he somehow puts his team on his back for a magical postseason run.
    Otherwise, it’s Reggie Agbeko that will win. This has not been a standout year for any players or even teams in comparision to most recent years, but Reggie is deserving, I just hope people who actually watch the games realize Reggie is no one-man show on that team, they have some very underrated supporting cast members.
    By the way– Everyone should be either thankful, or bitter that Jaysean Paige bolted for Kentucky.
    If you like parity where very few teams are locks to win every night and no player was a heavy POY favorite until now, then it’s great he left.
    If you like dominance, then it’s a shame. I can’t even imagine how dominant Jamestown would’ve been this year had he stayed.

  42. Ricky Avatar
    Ricky

    Speaking of Paige, any clues where he may attend college?

  43. McShea is God Avatar

    No Patrick stop coughing up your opinion that Stan has no shot 2 win it. He is the frontrunner. Reggie has played in a cloud of smoke all year while Stan recently has ‘lit up’ the scoreboard at a pace not seen in years.
    All this Player of the Year talk wouldn’t matter if Sal hadn’t used his AAU connections 2 force J Paige 2 Kentucky. Good move Sal, Falls now an early 12 point favorite vs Jamestown March 3rd.

  44. TakeItToTheHole Avatar
    TakeItToTheHole

    Just doing some internet research I came up with this:
    Jaysean Paige is averaging 21.4 ppg and 6.6 rpg for Perry County, whose record is 22-4.
    He’s being recruited by Marshall, Tennessee Tech, Northern Kentucky, and Eastern Kentucky. Per scout.com he has an offer from Morehead State.
    Marshall is a good program and Morehead State had a nice tourney run last year. Hopefully his academics are in order and I’ll be interested in seeing where he plays college ball.

  45. Southern Tier Avatar

    I don’t get how Sal got J Paige out of the area with AAU connections? If that is true there should be something done about it. I mean in one way I guess it’s smart but it hurt the rest of the basketball fans in the area. I knew Sal came from AAU. I don’t know just don’t think it is righ that Sal did that even if they do end up winning AA.

  46. "Late to the Show" Avatar
    “Late to the Show”

    Good reading, checked out maxpreps.com regarding the Reggie – Stan debate:
    While Stan is leading Sect 6 in nearly every single category the Rankings for ALL of NYS for Stan are:
    8th in Total scoring
    22nd in Total boards
    7th in 3 pointers made
    9th in free throws made
    Dudes, this is the entire NYS (all schools) and from the Point Guard position!!!!! PG’s don’t board like this and if they do, wow!
    If POY determines who is the best, All Around basketball player (not team) in the Section, then
    it’s obvious. Too much production at every aspect of the game: undeniable! Go Stan and hope to see you at Buff State!

  47. Guest Avatar
    Guest

    Max preps stats arent even close to reflecting all of NY because the majority of coaches dont put stats up on there.

  48. Northtowns Avatar
    Northtowns

    Not surprised he rebounds well.Look at his size. Weir doesnt play the top of the zone or guard the other teams pg so he only plays point half the game. You would think the best pg in the state could lead his team to ecic3 champs. Do you think he wins Mr. basketball NY?

  49. huh Avatar
    huh

    ???

  50. HUH? Avatar
    HUH?

    ^ Strange story…

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